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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  James Jack

  Thank you Morpheus,

  Nice Avatar and a voice of reason!
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  James Jack

  Finklestien

  you should know it really depends on the Elder Body about recourse to take when a Baptised pub, family or not should be punished for having dealings with a DA or DF person, just ask Ray Franz!

  Our BOE DF a mother for having too much contact with her DF son.

  Choose your words carefully and have all your ducks in a row!
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  James Jack

  When saying " that I never be that guy again" , I meant that Elder guy who pushes people or bullies them to"increase their share in the Ministry" or make them feel bad for missing the meetings, etc.

  I am the guy now that "does not let a rotten saying come out of his mouth"!

  When someone invites me over and want me to bring a 6 pack of beer and a dozen wings, I going to bring a 12 pack and 2 dozen wings!

  I am going to be chilled, relaxed and jovial.
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  James Jack

  I have an opened dialogue with my son. However on the issue of DFing, my wife still toes the line on waiting for him to get reinstated before we establish full contact.

  My is kinda funny, my wife is a stickler on this one issue only(DF). I guess she took it to personal that he went on some sexual excursions.

  On everything else, she will do whatever I do. She would follow me off that cliff!
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  The Secret is out....but nobody cares

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

  i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

  i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

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  James Jack

  Welcome Mr. Theocratic

  Your comments are spot on. I have too much invested to go anywhere else(some 35 years). I would say in our Hall it's 50/50 between the Hardcore and those going through the motions. Our Elders do watch the Flock closely, by phone calls and visits. You would literally have to walk away and tell them not to bother you for them to leave you alone. We have had 3 Single Sisters do that very thing this year (but not get DF).

  Hope to hear more from you and your experiences.

  JJ
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  1st time in 30 years no one Baptized at our Assembly

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at our assembly in alabama, no one got baptized, even though we added 3 congregations to our side in the circuit.

  just looked at my wife and said wow.. yet ironically, the regular pioneer ranks have increased 45% in the last 5 years!.

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  James Jack

  Oh yeah, the talk was still given.

  The speaker just changed his wording to make it apply to all those in attendance and as a reminder to live up to our dedication.
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  Assembly Assessment increased 300%

  by James Jack in

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  2. experiences

  while at the assembly, when reading the financial statement, i noticed our expenses went from $2500 to almost $9500 so i questioned an elder and said that the assessment per publisher is at $10.50 for all in the us branch territory.. he added this helps the society know how much is coming in and helps them plan out future projects!.

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  James Jack

  "So an equalizng takes place"

  That's what I was told.

  Bty, you know the Assembly Hall have done away with live in attendants and have replaced them with local pubs trading out days, because the live ins had the same status as Bethelites
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  Assembly Assessment increased 300%

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  while at the assembly, when reading the financial statement, i noticed our expenses went from $2500 to almost $9500 so i questioned an elder and said that the assessment per publisher is at $10.50 for all in the us branch territory.. he added this helps the society know how much is coming in and helps them plan out future projects!.

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  James Jack

  While at the Assembly, when reading the financial statement, I noticed our expenses went from $2500 to almost $9500 so I questioned an Elder and said that the Assessment per publisher is at $10.50 for all in the US Branch territory.

  He added this helps the Society know how much is coming in and helps them plan out future projects!
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  1st time in 30 years no one Baptized at our Assembly

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  at our assembly in alabama, no one got baptized, even though we added 3 congregations to our side in the circuit.

  just looked at my wife and said wow.. yet ironically, the regular pioneer ranks have increased 45% in the last 5 years!.

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  James Jack

  At our Assembly in Alabama, no one got baptized, even though we added 3 congregations to our side in the Circuit. Just looked at my wife and said wow.

  Yet ironically, the Regular Pioneer ranks have increased 45% in the last 5 years!
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  Must the Elders Always be Told?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recall that some years ago the wt stated that not all offences need to be reported to the elders, but that confessing serious sins to another person who was not an elder could suffice.

  the article stated that this did not include sexual offences and that these must be reported to the elders.. can anyone throw any light on this please?.

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  James Jack

  Any offense that could get you DF